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A seller's guide

Coin Scams, Buying Events and Fake Gold

By Philadelphia Coin Buyers, Philadelphia, PA

Sellers most often lose money to low offers at traveling hotel buying events, to mail-in buyers who set the price after the gold is gone, and to fake coins or bars bought online. Protect yourself by getting a written, item-by-item offer, watching every test and weighing, and never handing over or shipping metal before you agree on a price.

How hotel buying events work

A hotel buying event usually starts with a newspaper ad, a postcard or a radio spot saying buyers will be in town for a few days only. The ad lists coins, gold, watches and old toys, and it hints at big money for rare finds. The setup is a rented meeting room, folding tables and a line of sellers waiting their turn.

The short window is part of the pitch. Sellers feel they have to decide that day because the buyers leave tomorrow, so there is little time to get a second opinion. If something goes wrong later, the people who paid you can be hard to find.

Offers at these events often run low, since the operators have travel, advertising and room rent to cover. Some events are run honestly. Either way, ask for a written offer that lists each item, and do not let a deadline make the decision for you.

If you do go to an event, bring your own list and your own weights, and ask the buyer to sort and price each item in front of you. A buyer who stands behind the offer should not mind you writing it down.

Mail-in gold and coin buyers

A mail-in buyer sends a prepaid envelope, you put your gold or coins inside, and a check comes back later. The weak spot is the order of events. By the time you see the offer, your metal is already in their hands, and the testing and weighing happened where you could not watch.

Some mail-in buyers will return your items if you reject the offer, but the window to say no is often short and the return can carry fees. Read the terms before you seal anything. Photograph each piece and weigh it at home first so you have your own record.

Mail-in offers also tend to arrive as one total for the whole envelope. Without a breakdown by karat and weight, you cannot tell whether a 14K chain was paid as 10K or a collector coin was paid as scrap.

Ask a mail-in company how it tests and weighs, whether it pays by karat, and how many days you have to refuse an offer. If those answers are hard to get before you ship, that tells you something about how the rest of the sale will go.

Fake coins and fake gold

Convincing copies of old coins are easy to buy online today. Morgan dollars, pre-1933 U.S. gold and bullion coins like Silver Eagles and Krugerrands are common targets. Fakes run from plated base metal to coins made of real silver or gold with a faked date or mint mark.

Fake gold bars are a related problem. Some have a gold-plated shell over tungsten, a cheaper metal that weighs nearly the same as gold, so a fake bar can feel right in the hand. Proper testing, along with size and weight, is what settles it.

Graded coins have their own fakes. Counterfeit PCGS and NGC holders exist, sometimes with a real-looking label around a fake or lower-grade coin. Both graders let you look up a certification number on their websites, and the coin in the holder should match the record.

Buying bullion from strangers online carries its own risk. A price well below spot is the most common warning sign, and a reason to have the piece tested before you count on its value.

  • Magnet: gold and silver are not magnetic, so a coin or bar that sticks is not solid gold or silver. Many fakes do not stick either.
  • COPY stamp: many honest replicas are stamped COPY, often on the back.
  • Weight: a Morgan or Peace dollar should weigh 26.73 grams and a one ounce Gold Eagle 33.93 grams. Wear takes off a little, but a reading far off is a warning sign.
  • Details: mushy lettering, a seam around the edge or a greasy look are reasons to have a coin checked.

Pressure tactics and lowball offers

A low offer can come from an honest buyer, and a bad deal is not always a crime. These habits are good reasons to slow down and get a second offer.

A fair buyer will let you take a written offer home to compare. If a buyer pushes back on that, wait and talk to someone else before you sell anything.

Scratch and acid testing leaves a mark on the piece. On a coin, that mark lowers the grade, so no one should test your coins that way without your permission.

One habit costs sellers a lot and is easy to miss: a buyer prices every coin in a box as silver or gold by weight. The melt number may be honest while a better date inside the box goes unpaid.

  • One price for a whole bag or box, with no sorting of coins or karats
  • Testing or weighing done in a back room or out of your sight
  • Scratching, filing or acid testing your pieces without asking first
  • An offer that is spoken but never written down
  • A deadline: good only today, or only if you sell everything
  • A buyer who will not say which spot price the offer is based on
  • Calls or knocks at the door from strangers who heard you have coins

Safer moves for common situations

Keep a list of what you have before you show it to anyone. Photos of both sides of the better coins, the weight of each karat group of jewelry and any old receipts all help you compare offers.

Bring a family member if that makes you more comfortable, and bring a government-issued photo ID if you plan to sell.

Be wary of calls and messages from people who say they saw an obituary or an estate sale listing and want to buy coins. Pick the buyer yourself and make the call yourself.

Executors and family members handling an estate should keep the coins in one secure place until everyone agrees on a plan. A written list with photos helps prevent disputes and makes it easier to notice if anything goes missing.

SituationSafer move
Hotel event with a three-day deadlineGet a written offer, then compare it with a local buyer before deciding
Mail-in kit with a prepaid envelopePhotograph and weigh everything, read the return terms, or sell in person
Online listing priced well under spotAssume it may be fake and have it tested before you rely on it
Graded coin in a holderLook up the certification number on the PCGS or NGC website
Inherited coins of unknown originHave them checked and listed before you sell or divide them
A stranger offering to buy an estateDo not invite them in; book with a buyer you chose yourself

How our appointments are set up

We work by private appointment only, with no counter, no line and no audience. Every coin is looked at in front of you for date, mint mark, grade and eye appeal. Metal content is checked with non-destructive testing, with no acid and no scratching, and a calibrated scale gives the weights.

Whatever you decide, you walk away holding an itemized written offer. If you accept, payment happens before you leave, by cash, check or wire for larger sales. If you decline, everything goes home with you along with the list, so you can compare it with any other buyer. You never pay for the evaluation and you owe us nothing.

There is no event to catch and no envelope to mail. You call, we return the call the same business day, and the appointment is set for a time that works for you.

Staying safe as a seller around Philadelphia

Greater Philadelphia has a lot of long-settled households, and that makes it a target for traveling buyers. When an ad in a suburban paper announces a three-day buying event at a hotel off the Pennsylvania Turnpike or near the King of Prussia mall, the people behind it are counting on sellers who do not know another option. Families settling an estate in Northeast Philly, Delaware County or lower Bucks are the ones most likely to get the postcard, often within weeks of losing a parent.

Old estates here can also hold copies mixed in with the real thing. A city that tells the story of the first U.S. Mint draws plenty of visitors to Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell, and souvenir replica coins can end up in the same cigar box as genuine Indian Head cents and silver dollars. Some replicas are stamped COPY and some are not. Sorting the real coins from the souvenirs is part of an honest evaluation, and it keeps a family from dividing a box based on guesses. Fake bars and coins bought online show up in estates too, and the person who bought them often had no idea.

Our appointments are private and one-on-one, and the meeting place is set when you book. For a larger collection anywhere from Chestnut Hill to Media, Cherry Hill, Trenton or Wilmington, you can ask about a home visit so the coins never leave the house. Call 215-798-9204 and we will call you back the same business day. If a buying event flyer or a mail-in kit landed in your mailbox and you are not sure about it, call us and we can talk through what you have before you decide anything. Bring a family member along if you like.

Questions

More questions

Are hotel gold buying events a scam?

Not always, but offers at traveling events often run low, and the short deadline leaves little time to compare. If you go, ask for a written offer that lists each item, and get a second offer from a local buyer before you sell.

Is it safe to mail gold to a buyer?

It carries more risk than selling in person, because the buyer tests and weighs your gold out of your sight and makes the offer after they have it. If you use a mail-in buyer, photograph and weigh everything first and read the return terms.

How can I tell if a coin is fake?

Check its weight against the correct specs, look for a COPY stamp, and try a magnet, since gold and silver are not magnetic. None of these proves a coin is real. Non-destructive testing done in front of you can confirm the metal.

How do I check a PCGS or NGC graded coin?

Find the certification number on the label and enter it on the grader's website. The record should match the coin's date, denomination and grade. A mismatch or a missing record means the holder needs a closer look before you buy or sell it.

Find out what your coins and gold are worth. Then decide.

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  • Every piece checked in front of you
  • A written offer, item by item
  • Paid the same visit if you say yes

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